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Evasion Skills Considerations for the Evader

November 11, 2013

Successful personnel recovery (PR), or to use the older, more familiar term, escape-and-evasion (E&E), requires effective training, as well as extensive planning and preparation. While we’ve previously discussed, in some depth on this blog, the planning and preparation requirements for PR, what we’ve not spent much time on are the fundamental, specific tasks requirements of the evader himself, in order to provide the greatest possibility of successful evasion of hostile pursuit and search. Whether you foresee yourself functioning as part of an active insurgency against an oppressive regime, or are simply planning on “bugging out” when TSHTF, the same skills are absolute requirements for success and survival.

To begin with, it is crucial to preface this discussion with the recognition that this will focus predominantly on the rural/wilderness evader, rather than on urban-based evasion. There is a simple reason for this: while urban evasion is obviously crucial, in the long-term, urban evasion is unsustainable without heavy previous investment in the development of human terrain and physical infrastructure in evasion networks. The individual tradecraft skills of the evader, while still crucial, are ultimately less critical than ready access to a well-developed system of local guides, safe houses, and network contacts capable of producing or procuring effective cover identity documents. Further, in the short-term, while some of the specific details of tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) differ for urban-based evasion, the fundamental principles that underlie those TTPs remain the same in an urban environment as they are in a rural/wilderness evasion. Without the developed resistance infrastructure of a functioning underground, in place, your only hope for successful urban evasion of pursuit is to get out of the city and to a new, safer location.

E&E training in the US military and paramilitary cultures has traditionally focused in large part (although certainly not entirely), on what are fundamentally very elementary bushcraft skills such as fire-building, shelter construction, and building traps and snares for food procurement. Whiles these are not useless skills, for either survival or simply being a well-rounded human being, if you, as a “prepper,” lack these skills, you are woefully behind the power curve in your preparations (but I bet you have lots of guns and ammunition and food storage, don’t you?), and you should have been a Boy Scout. E&E training, to be functionally useful needs to focus less on bushcraft, and more on fieldcraft. That fieldcraft is the individual application of fundamental, basic light infantry skills.

  • Planning: First of all, of course, is the ancient law, the 7Ps: Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance. While it is often overlooked completely, or at best, given lip service during the planning of conventional force operations, the development of a solid, well-thought out Evasion Plan-of-Action (EPA), is absolutely crucial to irregular force planning in order to maximize the chance of survival for your most valuable assets–your people. Whether you are planning an ambush, a security patrol, or a bug-out to escape the city in a time of unrest, you need to have a well-developed EPA.

  • Land Navigation: The ability to determine your location, the location of your destination, and then to move successfully from point A to point B is of obvious importance to evasion. An inability to effectively navigate will result in evaders stumbling around lost and confused, until they end up either stumbling into pursuers on accident, or get tired, cold, and scared enough that they voluntarily search out their pursuers because “anything is better than being lost in the big, dark, scary woods!” Critical land navigation tasks include:

  1. Map Reading: You need to be able to look at a topographical map and read it like a book. Do you know what the different signs and symbols on the map represent? Yes, they are located on the map key. Do you know where that is located on the map? You need to be able to determine what the contour intervals are on the map you have. Is it 40 feet or 20 feet, or something different? Can you recognize and identify terrain features such as cliffs, ridges, fingers, draws, and valleys on a topographical map, based on the representation of contour line relationships? Can you measure distance on a map, using straight line or road distances? Do you know how to account for the margin of error when measuring distances on the map? Can you orient the map to the ground by associating the features represented on the map with the terrain you see around you?

  2. Compass Work: Compasses are easy, right? The needle always points North. Right? Do you know the difference between True North and Magnetic North? Do you know what an agonic line is and how that affects your compass readings where you are? Did you know that magnetic declination changes, so the topo map you have, that was photographed and produced in 1983 has the WRONG magnetic declination? Can you adjust for declination, in order to orient your map correctly, to help you start figuring out where you are? Terrain association works really well….unless there’s no terrain features readily visible (seriously! Where I live, I don’t really need a compass most of the time, because the terrain is so steep and varied, that I can almost always terrain associate with ease. Try that shit in the pine woods back east though and you’ll never even get started). Worse, trying to terrain associate a map in the dark of night can be a little bit troublesome. Can you use your compass and map to determine a magnetic azimuth to follow for moving from point A to point B?

  3. Here’s the rub with map-and-compass work: If you’ve never had any training in the use of these two tools, from someone who has not only training but lots of real-world field experience using a map-and-compass extensively, to bush whack off trail, I can guarantee, with 100% certainty of being right, you have no clue what you’re doing with these tools. Reading a book just doesn’t cut it. Sure, Kjellstrom’s Be An Expert With Map and Compass will help you understand the theory of what you’re learning in meat space, but until you get out there and actually learn to do it properly, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE DOING!

  • Route Selection: While land navigation obviously involves a modicum of expertise with map and compass, an oft-overlooked aspect of tactical land navigation that is of equal importance, if not greater importance, is your ability to select a movement route that provides maximum tactical advantage to you as an evader. This ability, of course, requires a thorough understanding of terrain analysis on the map and on the ground, through a practical comprehension of METT-TC and OCOKA.

    Route selection for the evader needs to take maximum advantage of any available cover and concealment both during movement and for laying-up in hide sites for rest. You need to consider concealment not just from ground-mobile threats, but also from aerial observation and engagement in some situations. You need to be able to select a route and then adhere to that route, that makes active pursuit and tracking either impossible, or prohibitively difficult. Yes, that means you’ll probably need to be in good physical condition (don’t bother with machismo-laden bravado-infused comments about how you’re too old to bother running, but you’ll sell your life dearly…number one, I just don’t give a shit about your braggadocio, and number two, eating a mortar round or a belt of 7.62×51 from a M240, after shooting one dude with your rifle doesn’t constitute selling your blood “dearly.“).

  • Move Tactically: We’ve previously discussed the individual skills required to move tactically with stealth for the guerrilla, and need not belabor the point here. Recognize however that while being able to run like a raped ape for a couple of miles, even with your rucksack and LBE on might be critical, and is something you should be capable of, slow and steady, when you’re trying to evade pursuit ultimately really does win the race. Moving slow and cautiously, whenever possible (like anytime you don’t have pursuers breathing down your neck as they’re tugging at the back of your belt) increases the chances that you can avoid doing something stupid to indicate your presence and location to the pursuit forces, and allows you to implement counter-tracking measures to slow down that pursuit as well (I’m not any sort of a professional man-tracker. On a good day, I MIGHT be able to track a muddy dog through a hospital operating room. I do know it’s damned near impossible to completely foil a dedicated tactical tracking team that knows what they are doing. All we’re hoping for is to keep them busy enough looking for our sign and spoor that they don’t have much time to actually follow it…).

  • Camouflage and Concealment: Camouflage and concealment from observation is a critical aspect of tactical movement to avoid compromise and capture. Like the other basic infantry tasks we’ve previously discussed, this one should need no real introduction.

  • Select and Occupy a Hide Site: You’re going to have to stop and rest eventually. Whether you are capable of moving steady and safely for one day, two days, or five days, eventually, if you don’t rest, you’ll make stupid mistakes, like walking into a well-prepared ambush. However, especially in a solo evasion scenario, going to sleep violates the third principle of patrolling, “security,” doesn’t it? Only if you lack the ability to select and occupy a well-chosen hide site effectively. A hide site needs to be, first and foremost, hidden. It needs to be in a place that no pursuers are likely to accidentally trip into while searching for you. It needs to provide some way of forewarning you of the approach of pursuers. It needs to provide multiple egress routes, in case pursuers do get close enough that you are flushed out. Finally, if all else fails, it needs to provide you with adequate protection to allow you to fight and repel pursuit until you can effect an escape (not likely, but hell, where’s the harm in trying, right?).

  • Equipment Considerations: There is a lot of interest in building “survival kits” and “bug-out bags.” There’s no harm in that. What does appall me is the preponderance of otherwise sensible people who invest a lot of time and effort into building the silly little Altoids can based “survival kits” that then get thrown in their ruck with all of their other gear….all of their other gear that is specifically chosen to keep them alive in the field…(see what just happened there?) If you adopt the previously discussed SMOLES concept for packing your rucksack, as well as for developing your fighting load and first-line gear, there’s really no reason to have a “survival kit in a can.” That is, after all, the reason for the three-echelon packing concept. If you’ve got your ruck and fighting load with you, then you should have the ability, equipment-wise anyway, to survive indefinitely. If you have to dump your ruck (which if you have it on when things go haywire, you shouldn’t have to except in very limited cases–or you’re a fat ass who doesn’t do effective PT and so you can’t carry the goddamn thing), or your EPA kicks in when you don’t have your ruck on, such as it sitting in an Objective Rally Point (ORP) when a raid or ambush goes to hell on your, you still have your fighting load and first-line gear on. If that was developed with SMOLES in mind, you probably won’t be as comfortable as you would be with your ruck on, but you should still be able to survive. If for some reason you have to dump your fighting load, then you’ve still got a full SMOLES load-out in your first line gear, and that should only get dumped if the pursuers are doing it by dumping your pockets after they’ve killed or captured you.

Evasion planning and training is a critical skill set in irregular/guerrilla warfare. Unfortunately, in American tradition, we tend to focus more on the easy to do bush craft aspects of it. Those are easy to practice in your backyard, or at the park, and require little or no real physical effort to learn and practice. The real, important aspects of evasion training however: being fit enough to go miles every day, day-after-day-after-day, on little sleep and rest, and less food, while thinking clearly enough to select good routes, and utilize a map-and-compass for land navigation to get your where you need to go; those require actual commitment to train and practice. Not learning and practicing them however, will result in an inability to escape and evade capture. Whether it’s regime security forces you’re fleeing, or a horde of cannibalistic San Franciscans, when the time comes to nut up and run, you’d better have the necessary skills and abilities. Otherwise, you’re likely to end up in the hot water, one way or another…

DOL,

John Mosby

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44 Comments
  1. sabasarge permalink

    Good stuff, as usual, with some timely reminders for me……thanks John.

  2. Koldsteel permalink

    Good article. Keeping me focused on whats important.

  3. panajungla permalink

    Another well-written lesson JM. I once had every cop and deputy in Coffee County TN looking for me. I ran for 2 days. I escaped that state in the back of a stolen pick-up truck. Thanks to my Army Survival Training, I was good to go.😀

  4. Thanks for the head check. I attended the level C SERE course at Camp McCall, NC many years ago and took away many lessons that are as clear and vivid today as they were back in the day. There were two that always stuck out the most; 1st. As a cocky well conditioned twenty something who knew he was invincible I found my physical and mental wall. SERE school and the RTL were the two things that will truly humble your ass. 2nd when it comes to the idea of giving up because you are tired, cold, hungry, and feeling like you can’t go on remember that your worse day on the run is infinitely better than your best day in a cage.

    • Swamp Fox permalink

      A a SERE instructor at Camp McCall many years ago, JM you are correct. PT is the most basic for of SERE Level A training. The answer lies in the most basic SERE TTP is, Run, Jump, Climb, Hide and do it again and again until you are safe.

      • Swamp Fox permalink

        JM good work

        Swamp Fox (retired 18Z)

  5. Alpha 375 permalink

    JM Good info, Any ideas on where to cache the family while you E and E or conduct an insurgency against the cannibalistic San Franciscans.

    • The house/SFOB/retreat is the Guerrilla Base Camp. If you have to bug out of their, that’s part of the area development planning, and their escape plans are part of that. Dan Morgan and I are working on a cooperative article currently on development of base camp infrastructure, if I’d ever get around to emailing him my contributions…..

  6. It cracks me up how much you mention PT, maybe I notice it more or maybe you’re emphasizing it more. Either way, I cannot for the life of me understand why people don’t do it. Most of the guys here in western VA sporting the 3%/Gadsen/patriot paraphernalia can’t see their shoes when they look down. We don’t have the Rockies by any stretch, but 4-5k feet elevation change still sucks with a full load. I’m not a badass by any stretch, but I still haul my ass to the gym or ruck almost every day. There’s no reason most people cannot be functionally fit, especially if you have any intent on resistance. IMHO what good does all this information do you if you die from a fucking heart attack or can’t physically perform the task? God forbid those munching Cheetos and beating off to gun porn actually train. Take this as encouragement to keep harping on it because it’s motivating to me and I can only hope the Cheeto-dicks take it to heart.

    • Dude. I’m the only man around my area who is fit to fight other than the high school kids. The rest are fat slobs or skinny drunks and meth heads.I walk around like the fucking hulk compared to these losers. I haven’t eaten or drank shit food in years and work out daily. As for E&E- done it here in the states and abroad and the only thing that will keep you alive is being fit and having a clear mind. Good luck to all the fat stoned idiots who inhabit this once great land.

      • The saddest part is all the vets who are seriously overweight, hell even the active duty men have weight problems WTF? When I enlisted I weighed 140 lbs by the time I left service I was a solid 170, and still remain at 176 today. Sure I went up to 205 at one point, being the boss of a successful company does that to you. I still had to beat off the women clinging to me even at that poundage-must be the $.

  7. It’s the present-day state of affairs. Skills that were once considered universal, are now sadly lacking. When I was a wee lad, you were expected to learn how to hunt, fish, work on a vehicle, fix things around the house, etc. And for fuck’s sake, be in decent shape. Not to mention everybody was a vet. These were the common task items of being a man. In this fucked-up, pussified world we now live in, you don’t even has these things as a decent starting point anymore, to be discussing U/W no less. The only saving grace is the opfor is just as fubar. It becomes a race against the learning curve, with a little luck thrown in, to see who gets squared away the “fustest” (with apologies to Gen. Forrest).

    This is a very over-looked subject within the patriot community. Either folks are just preparing to hunker down and survive (and not fight if at all possible), or they are training for the insurgency. Not much thought has gone into the transition from one to the other, at least publically. On another note, there has been much emphasis on urban or semi-rural T,T,& P’s simply because of the vast majority of people living in these areas, and their unfamiliarity with basic fieldcraft. Morever, conventional wisdom has it that you can’t survive in the boonies, so don’t even try. What isn’t considered, is linking up with folks already out in the boonies. Then it becomes a viable option. If you can find some folks who are squared away, and convince them you would be an asset to their outfit, then you just might have a shot at it. But as the Brits say: “you cawn’t get from here to there”. That is, without a good E & E plan. And some good basic skill sets. All this over-emphasis on weapons and equipment is wasted time and money. Knowledge, and being in good shape to apply it, are vastly more important. I have a sneaking suspicion there will probably be plenty of hardware lying around after the balloon goes up.

    Good article.

    • A word of advice to those who plan on bugging out to the boonies-YOU’RE NOT WELCOME. You most likely will be shot and looted of anything of value. The folks out here pretty much hate city scum.

      • denis permalink

        amen to that. we have our own families to support.

      • Shorty permalink

        Mosby, it’s good to see that your articles on auxiliary development and not murdering innocent civilians are sinking in.

      • the fukkn A-team permalink

        If the assholes who come “visit” the rural areas were decent and law abiding(there are no innocents)but they are not. They come out here to get drunk,raise hell,and commit acts they absolutely cannot get away with in the city. We don’t even like the part-timers who have cabins up here. I imagine most of those will be burnt down if and when the SHTF. If you make your home and live in the city,then stay there,thats where you belong.

      • So, you don’t believe in private property rights? I’m guessing you’re in the wrong place, hero.

      • Ya know, I’ve lived in rural parts of this country in all four corners and the mid-west. Considering the number of absolutely abysmal marksmen I’ve seen in rural areas (“But hell, I gots mah deer las’ yeer!”), my money is on the urban/suburban dwelling preparedness advocate who’s taken the time to get professional training in gunhandling and SUT, and is trying to get their family to safety over a bunch of in-bred Bubba Gumps with an ax to grind because their fucking sister refused to swallow last night. Quit talking shit to people and start working on developing rapport with them instead. Seriously. Quit acting like a pissed off paratrooper from the 82d and start thinking like a G.

      • the fukkn A-team permalink

        LOL. The good,decent,and honest,rural folks are definately NOT the problem. The city creatures just don’t know how to be human. They come here and bring their ghetto mentality with them, think we’re all stupid “sister fucking Bubba Gumps”lol. and act as if there is no law. The Sheriffs Deputies just love dealing with these “family” types on the weekends, as it keeps the court dockets filled. The full-time residents on the other-hand hate them with a passion. The arrogant urban/suburban animals “seeking safety” are most definately NOT WELCOME and things are still “relatively good”. Of coarse, they can always choose to become part of the community, but we just don’t see that happening. My advice to anyone bugging out to someone elses AO is to tread very, very lightly and be OH SO POLITE to the locals. Men have been known to be beaten to death with ball bats and run thru a chipper into a hogs pen around here-seriously.

      • Shorty permalink

        Cool story, bro.

  8. RobRoySimmons permalink

    Can’t emphasize the E&E enough, could even use it as an IQ test for your G interview process. Those who scoff at it and spout the usual gun board bravado are best used as martyrs, “Oh poor Clem the Swatzis broke down his door and he died in a hail of gun fire with a mouth full of chips, we need to train and not be like Clem.”

    • ” Yeah, get out and do some PT Clem, you’ve seen that episode of Hee Haw 13 times.”

      • RobRoySimmons permalink

        I’ll take Hee Haw all day over the crap fed thru the stupidvision these days. Nope our chip munching Clem has been watching Dick Metcalf blast caps at Sig’s or Ruger’s range and dreaming of being the Daniel’s Defense dream boy bad ass who bought the latest and greatest toy. (but Clem is fucking confused because on G&A TV they keep calling them bad ass toys “sporting rifles” its so fucking confusing)

  9. matt permalink

    So everybody is planning on surviving a zombie cannibal raid on their house and beating feet into the woods? Does that mean that G commanders should start planning personnel recovery operations to support that guy?

    Is that what we should be aspiring to? Becoming more effective than just a lone operator by forming groups to assist each other?

  10. Michael permalink

    Great article….especially love the comments! So true. All show and no go….I can’t get anyone to train…especially if you’re talking about actually sweating!

  11. edited for illegibility and idiocy–JM

  12. Wow, TFATeam, there’s a wet dream for the ACLU. Damn. I don’t know what’s worse, actually thinking that way, or being stoopid enough to say so in open forum. Hey thanks for demonstrating that irrational hate, violence, and an IQ of room temperature are not the exclusive domain of the Statists.

    • the fukkn A-team permalink

      Untill the people of this Country as a whole decides to start respecting others personal space, there will be no peace amongst ourselves. The one thing that will absolutely unite the rural folks together is the invasion of city scum into their neighborhoods. Every year it gets worse and worse. If you don’t live in the boonies, then I guess you just won’t understand that most of us moved here to get away from urban/suburban dwellers and their total disregard for common decency. We don’t want loud music, parties,traffic, and the low ethical standards of modernity. As for ACLU manuer, I really don’t think anyone will much care about the admiralty court and “just us” system after the SHTF. But go ahead Diz and keep clinging to your St00pid belief system and the retarded ACLU.

    • the fukkn A-team permalink

      Another MAJOR divide between the good rural people and the city dwelling lower forms of humanity ia the senseless destruction of the rural areas natural resources. Us decent people respect the natural wildlife surrounding us and harvest only what is needed to supplement our nutritional needs, whereas the urban slime called humans use anything that moves as targets to kill for their shallow entertainment. Just remember DIZ, what comes around-goes around and we don’t forget.

  13. Reblogged this on Jesse Talks Back and commented:
    A great piece for sure, training is absolutely essential.

  14. Attack Company 1/75 permalink

    Common decency in the boonies? What a joke. I live in the “boonies” and there are some good folk out here, but there are a lot more scum. Being in the boonies is not like how it use to be like before the early 80’s. It seems like every generation after the “greatest generation” gets worse and worse. For example, just this month a couple of young men (in their 20’s) broke into 6 homes from the surrounding area. Yes, they were caught. Why did they break in those homes? Because it was for their drug addiction. Yes, drugs. I can give a list of things that happen out here that would make your head spin.

    Slime is not only in the urban areas, it is everywhere.

    • the fukkn A-team permalink

      OK. I have to agree with you on everything you just said. BUT. It is going to be a whole lot easier to effect change out in the boonies after TSHTF than in the cities. I envision a return to traditional American values centered around family,friends,and charity to others-in that order. The drugs,alcohol,and demonic behavior exhibited in todays society just disgusts me to no end. Lawful justice can deal with those who fall below the standards of morality that are already here in the stix, but it is impossible to handle the influx of urban/suburban strangers at the same time. Those of us who wish to see a return to civility have a monumental task ahead of us. Good luck to us all.

    • the fukkn A-team permalink

      @AC 1/75 “Men have been known to be beaten to death with ball bats and run thru a chipper into a hogs pen around here-seriously”.-search: “Darker than Night” I live about a mile from the scene. Took 20 years to break that case even though everyone around here knew who did it. The victims were actually from my hometown area downstate. I’ve met some of the perps relatives here(OMG)and have heard more than several “rumors” of other incidents also. But not a week goes by during spring,summer,or fall that I don’t experience some dangerous moments right in my own AO. It’s always hunters or property owners from some downstate hellhole City that come down the river thats 70ft in front my home or stalking thru the forest that surrounds me. In contrast, during the past 10 years I’ve never had any real problems with the locals ever.

  15. hoo boy. I don’t usually do this but… The main problem, as I see it here, is the character of the people involved here. Being a military brat, I have lived all over the country, and over-seas as well. What I have found is it really depends on the belief systems of the people you meet, and how they conduct themselves with their neighbors. You can make these sweeping generalizations and say all urban dwellers are worthless, and all rural folks are good, but come on, we both know that just isn’t true. You speak from experience in your own little world there, but do you really want to extrapolate that and say this hold true for an entire continent? There are worthless pieces of shit from all walks of life, demographics, race, religion, politics, etc. To demonize everyone else different from you and claim a halo for yourself is pretty fucked up in my book. I think you are just talking hyperbole here, at least I hope so, but in case not, then know there is a whole world out there beyond your narrow POV. If you can’t take off your blinders and judge folks by the content of their heart, rather than their zip code or whatever, then you become just as bad as the people you are mother-fucking. But hey, don’t actually apply any logic or common sense to your beliefs. Just crank up ‘ol Hank singing “country boy can survive” in your pickemup truck and drive on.

    • the fukkn A-team permalink

      Diz. I don’t listen to music, watch tv, or drive a pick-up truck. And I never said I was going to burn down anything. I said I “imagine” thats what will happen. Hell, most of the dumps around me end up burning down all on their own as it is. You made good points and I can’t argue with them so I won’t. I guess I’m just fed up to my cranial hair folicles with the demise of our Countymens behavior. Believe me, I am working with folks much less fortunate than I everyday around here to effect change. I am doing my part to the best of my ability. But sometimes a dose of ‘tough love’ is what the Dr. ordered. Good luck to you and yours. Sincerely.

  16. Man, believe me when I say that a lot of what you’re laying down is true. As the man said, “pardon me for talking about my experiences, but they’re the only ones I have.” I get that. And true enough, I have watched this county’s decent into the seventh level of Dante’s hell for the last 40+ years. But the one thing I will ask you to consider is this. I have met people from all over this land, and yes, it’s still a great land, it some areas. What it comes down to is what they have inside. I have found kindred souls from all walks of life. Even though the vast majority may be worthless, as you say, there are still many good folks that might just surprise you, when push comes to shove. Sometimes it takes a major crises for us to find each other. Some folks are worthless until you shoot and throw grenades at them. Then they shine. I kinda thought you might be just be going high-right on us for drill. Good luck and God bless.

  17. the fukkn A-team permalink

    Alright. This is for the MG. I don’t ask for advice often, but when I do it’s going to directed to someone with more intelligence than myself. I have an extra home out here in boonie land. I am kicking around the idea of helping homeless veterans. I was once in a far worse position than I find myself in at the present time, and I was blessed to have some great people who cared enough to help me out. Where do I start and what should I do?

    • Fuck if I know, bro. LOL. I’d probably start with the local VA Veteran’s Rep. Great gesture, but I genuinely just don’t know.

      • the fukkn A-team permalink

        We’re in the process of taking possession of a 3 bedroom on the water adjacent to our property here. So I think I can get 3-5 guys in there, and if I can get combat vets- there’s my security team living right nextdoor. Seems like a win-win. I love it when a plan comes together.

  18. I would quietly put the word out through the community there, then interview and pick the best guys you can find. Talk to anyone with connections to your nearest national guard or reserve center. Avoid officers, find First Sgts, or senior NCO’s. Talk to folks at the local range, or gun shops. See if any vet organization has a table at the next gun show. In other words, where ever gun-toting, bitter clingers hang out.

    Be very clear what the expectations are up front. Maybe even try a probationary period to make sure they’re gonna work out. Train. A lot of folks have good intentions, and talk a good game, but when it’s time to get your ass in the grass, they don’t want to do the work. Find at least one former Ranger or other good light infantry NCO so you are tactical sound. In fact, think half A-team if you can pull it off.

    • the fukkn A-team permalink

      Yup. Thats why I don’t want to go to the VA and say anything. Good advice-I was thinking the same.I have a bit of field experience myself,was a trainer in infantry tactics and survival at one time,and ran a business for 20 years in Detroit afterwards. So I know how to weed out bozos rather quickly. Thanks for the imput dude. When I get things squared away, I’ll be contracting the MG for some up-to-date tactical doctrine.

      • the fukkn A-team permalink

        There’s a GOOD communtiy college 20 miles or so from me. And I wouldn’t mind starting up some type of small business again, so that would keep the men occupied before they move on to bigger and better things. I’m out in the boonies, surrounded by Nat’l Forest and have access to 100s of acres of remote-private training venue. My vision is to cycle them thru once or twice a year-if the world continues to turn as we know it.

  19. Unreconstructedgordo permalink

    My SERE training is limited to earning the Mayflower patch in Panama in 1968 before heading to RVN. I have hiked the seirras and Big Sur EXTENSIVELY from 1974-2004 but tell me when you hit 67 and you start to put on weight cause you blew your knees with all the boonie humping and mountain biking about not “selling your life dearly”. Anyway I’d still give it a try in my area where we send miscreants down in 2000 meters of water in crab traps. Please share with me how to be resistant to a FLIR airborne search! My father developed the first FLIR airborne platform (the Army Mohawk ) FWIW. Airborne FLIR even under the double canopy redwood forest here scares the crap out of me for E&E. My 35 year old son wants to take your course in AZ this spring, I’ll attend the 1 day add on, iand eat cheetos!

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