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The Only Call to Action For Me

May 31, 2017

Chapter Three of my book, Forging the Hero: Who Does More Is Worth More, opens with a quote from English antiquarian and author, the late H.R. Ellis-Davidson (1914-2006), from her book Gods and Myths of Northern Europe:

The mythology of a people is far more than a collection of pretty or terrifying fables to be retold in carefully bowdlerized form to our schoolchildren. It is the comment of the men of one particular age or civilization on the mysteries of human existence and the human mind, their model for social behavior, and their attempt to define, in stories of gods and demons, their perception of inner realities.”

There is a lot of value in that statement, for building inherent resilience into our local community cultures, even if you are not a dirty, unwashed heathen like myself.

As I went on to point out in that chapter, one of the side effects of the decadence of the Age of Affluence discussed by Glubb in The Fate of Empires was the impact of the rise of intellectualism in a society. He pointed to the parallels between the Caliphate (the first Caliphate, not the resurgent one we are currently in conflict with) and our contemporary Western civilization quite poignantly, as well as to evidence from the Biblical book Acts of the Apostles, of the same issues having arisen in Hellenic culture: “…all the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there spent their time doing nothing but talking about and listening to the latest ideas.

In our own time, we’ve watched the unending debates of physically and mentally soft blowhards in the elected legislatures of the western world, the media, and our local communities. “Woe is us! Woe is us! What should we do? What can we do!? We cannot offend! We cannot harm! Violence only breeds more violence!” We see issues debated in the partisan press; incessant talking and bickering, name-calling, and insults. Meanwhile, too few have been willing to stand up—even among the most fervent on either side of a debate—and place their own social, professional, and political futures on the line, and say, “alright, so we have talked this shit to death. Nothing has changed. Now, we are going to just go ahead and do it my way, because you bastards can’t come to a conclusion. Shut the hell up and get out of my way!

When someone does—ever so rarely—decide to sacrifice himself on the altar of action, the other side quickly bemoans the “lack of bispartisanship,” and “spirit of democracy,” even if the precipitous action worked and solved the problem. If the actor was on the Right, he is quickly mocked as a fascist or Nazi, and even his erstwhile allies are quick to abandon ship, lest they be tarred with the same ridiculous brush. If the actor is on the Left, they are just as quickly mocked with equally fatuous labels of “Marxist!” or “Communist!” even when their proposals have nothing to do with Marx’s scribblings. No one, on either side, has been willing to accept being called names, even though our forebears were willing to challenge each other to duels on the floor of Congress.

Regardless, this spirit of Athenian debate seems to be, like elsewhere, predicated on the destruction of the spirit of action that was necessary to the founding of empire. The rise of each empire’s Age of Intellect seems to be a good thing, at least initially. Surprising advances are made in the sciences, and in the understanding of the physical world and nature. In the ninth-century when the Christian world of Europe would require another seven centuries to grasp that, in fact, the world was not flat, and that personal hygiene prevented disease transmission, Mohammedan scientists in the commission of Caliph al-Ma’mun determined the circumference of the Earth to within 200 kilometers, and bathing was a religious precept.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, “intellectualism” is defined as “the exercise of the intellect at the expense of the emotions.” In turn, “intellect” is defined as “the faculty of reasoning or understanding, objectively, especially with regard to abstract or academic matters.” At first glance, either of these seems particularly nefarious. This is fortunate, since the intellect has a definite, positive role to play in life and survival, and the rise of mankind as a species. When we begin looking at it through the prism of the collective experience of human nature however, and witness the resulting expression of this intellectualism with the social and political discourse at the height of imperial power, we begin to see the deleterious effects on life and cultural survival.

The most damnable result of the rise of intellectualism, is the growth within the collective psyche of a people, of the idea that the human brain can overcome nature, and solve all of the perceived problems of the world. It is the same belief that “imperialism is bad!” that drives the belief that “imperialism is good!” as subjects of political philosophical debate.

The archaeological, anthropological, and historiographic record of the collective human experience pretty clearly indicates that, in order for any human cultural activity to succeed, some form of community must be engaged in the collective effort towards the achievement of the goal. In order for that to take place, the members of the community must be willing to sacrifice self to some degree, and act in a spirit of service to the community. The idealist naivete of “reason always prevails,” or that mental cleverness alone can resolve the world’s problems, without physical effort or community participation, falls flat, as soon as a foe is met who is willing to stop talking, and start chopping the heads off the intellectuals.

Intellectualism is not Intelligence

Before we can begin to recognize the impact that the Age of Intellect—and the reactionary anti-intellectualism, has on us, and our efforts to preserve those values, customs, and traditions, of our own local community cultures that we value, within the context of the declining empire, we must conceded that having the intelligence to understand the meanings of words, and to apply those words, accurately, is important. As soon as you give up the meaning of words, and instead to choose to accept the “general understanding” of what the establishment wants those words to mean, within the “current lexicon,” you give yourself up to being roped in and controlled by The Narrative.

As I pointed out in Forging the Hero, that “prattling social activist intellectual of the worst sort,” Noam Chomsky, has admitted, “…the intellectuals are specialists in defamation, they are basically political commisars, they are the ideological administrators, the most threatened by dissidence.” Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980), one of the leading voices of Marxist philosophy in the 20th century, called intellectuals, “the moral conscience of their age.

The social function of the intellectual, in Marxist philosophy, is to be the source of progressive ideals for the transformation of society, and to interpret the country’s politics for the proletariat, as well as to provide guidance and advice to the political leadership of the Party. (Now, go back, and re-read that sentence…a couple times…and think about the connections in modern society, between academia, the media, and the political caste on both sides of the false dialectic…) In Plato’s Republic, the intelligentsia forms the nucleus of the leadership caste of the ideal society. This has become our common understanding of the role of the intellectual, and this has shaped our collective distrust of—and disgust with—intellectualism.

The problem with his distrust of intellect is when it results in a backlash of anti-intellectualism. Anti-intellectualism is recognized as a hostility towards the intellect, as well as a distrust of intellectuals. It is expressed in the derision of education, philosophy, literature, and the sciences, as being impractical in the real world, and thus contemptible. This anti-intellectualism occurs on both sides of the modern Hegelian dialectic of western politics. We see the collectivists on the Left who want to tear down any markers of Western cultural ideology, including statuary and iconic landmark buildings that have long been considered architectural wonders of the world. We see them lose their minds over the “inherent racism” and “hetero-normative bias” of classical literature and art and music of the West.

On the same hand however, we see the Right refuse to even consider that something new or different may have equal value, or—gods forbid—greater relevance to anyone. “Aww, shit. Them people ain’t never managed to create nothing more lasting than a brush hut! What have them sonsuvbitches got to offer?” Ignoring the fact that the “primitive” culture in question may have survived, largely unchanged, for 2000 years. The Right looks at the material products of a culture, and sees anything else as irrelevant, even as they struggle to discover a way to “maintain cultural identity!”

Well-respected conservative political philosopher, Dr. Thomas Sowell—who is, by any objective metric, the definition of an intellectual—makes the case in his 2009 book, Intellectuals and Society,
that the rise of anti-intellectualism in the modern world is a justifiable result of malfeasance within the educational system:

By encouraging, or even requiring, students to take stands where they have neither the knowledge nor the intellectual training to seriously examine complex issues, teachers promote the expression of unsubstantiated opinions, the venting of uninformed emotions, and the habit of acting on those opinions and emotions, while ignoring or dismissing opposing views, without having either the intellectual equipment or the personal equipment to weigh one view against another in any serious way.

It is important—absolutely critical, in fact—to point out that Dr. Sowell is critical not of the use of the intellect itself, but of the misplaced emphasis on unreasoned thought. In fact, this is a call for a more disciplined intellectual rigor, requiring both the tools of critical thinking, and the empiricism of life experience, for decision-making about where an individual stands in regard to complex issues. This is critical, because it is precisely what distinguishes intelligence from intellectualism, at a practical and practicable level.

Anti-intellectualism has a well-deserved bad reputation precisely because of its prevalence within totalitarianism. Action is critical, but blind adherence to action, untempered by reason and good judgement, ends in poor results for pretty much everyone involved in the long-term.

While intellectualism is not—nor should it ever be considered—the final arbiter of Truth, as it relates to human nature, there is a great deal of observableTruth to be found in the scientific method and the pursuit of intellectual rigor represented therein. In order for there to be a benefit from the study of human experience, there has to be a balance between the intellectual and the experiential learning models.

The illustration of this that I used in Forging the Hero seems increasingly appropriate:

The academic who has never tasted the copper-mouthed sensation of life-or-death fear, as he watches muzzle flashes downrange, or has never watched the blood pouring out of someone that he knows and loves, lacks the requisite real-life experience to genuinely understand, at a human, visceral level, the warrior past of our collective heritage.

On the opposite side of the coin however, the warrior—no matter how well-blooded in battle—without an intellectual understanding of the human past, can never really understand the strategic and social implications of the combat in which he took part. He is forced to accept the explanations of his leaders, never completely certain if he is being fed a ration of bullshit. The balance must be sought between intellect and instinct.

A Call to Action? To What Action?

What then, does all of this prattling have to do with the Ellis-Davidson quote that opened this article?

The mythology of a people is far more than a collection of pretty or terrifying fables to be retold in carefully bowdlerized form to our schoolchildren. It is the comment of the men of one particular age or civilization on the mysteries of human existence and the human mind, their model for social behavior, and their attempt to define, in stories of gods and demons, their perceptions of inner realities.

In a word, “everything.” We see people on both sides of the political extremes beginning to take violent action in support of their definitions of “American values.” I watch social media, as they call for “like-minded people” to stand up and take action in support of their action. I see people respond, blindly, to these calls for action, without ever even considering, “Do I even share these people’s beliefs?

Oxford defines “myth” as: “A traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining a natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.”

Mythology, in turn, is defined as: “A collection of myths, especially one belonging to a particular religious or cultural tradition.”

It is important, before we go further, to understand that nothing in those definitions refers to the “truth” or “accuracy,” or even the “reason and logic” of those tales.

We have a national mythology in the United States. It is the one most of us grew up with in school, church, and bedtime stories. We also have various cultural mythologies within the population of the United States. Those mythologies that you believe in, and have internalized, are what will define—for you—what defines “Western culture.” They may or may not be the same as my definition of “Western culture.” Evidenced by a lot of the shit coming across my social media feeds, the definition of “Western culture”held by most on the Right and the Left are dramatically different from my definitions of “Western culture.”

The only call to action you should be responding to—or, really, even paying attention to—are those that are in accordance with your cultural values, and the core mythologies that you believe in. If that means you need to armor up and run down to the local riot and start beating on Leftists, that’s on you.

For me, that call to action includes reducing my clan’s dependence on external market supports that serve no useful purpose for my clan. These actions have—in recent months (thus explaining, in large part, my absence from any writing efforts on the MG blog) included—convincing most of the clan to start at least small backyard vegetable gardens, change their dietary habits to a more ancestral diet model, increase their physical fitness training, increase their personal protection training, and thinking—and speaking—more openly, about the obligations of frith that tie our clan together, and were recognized previously, but seldom spoken of aloud.

That call to action has including no longer reading bedtime stories to my children, instead choosing to recite bedtime stories off-the-cuff. I have found that this forces me to inject the stories with more elements of belief that are specific to our cultural values.

That call to action has included attempts to spend less time alone on the farm, and more time convincing the clan to come spend time at the farm, and to spend more time with them at their homes. It has included initiating MORE holiday gatherings than we already participated in, that have existed as long as the clan has existed.

That call to action has included making a more concerted effort to look for solutions to needs within the commerce of the clan, rather than running to town and spending money on material goods, sending my money who knows where, to support who knows what. If I have to spend money on something, I would rather put that money in my kinsman’s pocket, where it will eventually get spent on something ELSE that supports my clan, than in the pocket of some complete stranger, whose values I not only don’t share, but don’t even know.

That call to action has included dropping whatever I am engaged in at the moment, to get in my truck and drive to wherever someone in my clan has called me from, asking for help. This has ranged from helping to move a refrigerator, to towing a truck, to helping a member of the clan’s parents move house.

This call to action has included spending a little more money, for the same item, in order to buy it from a small, local store, owned by a member of my community, instead of driving two hours to the city, and buying it from a big box retailer, for a lesser price, from some impersonal corporate drone.

The call to action that all of us should be heeding is not the call to violence (except when necessary to the survival of the clan or community), but the call to make our communities more resilient, by strengthening the bonds of frith that tie those communities together.

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34 Comments
  1. Ramsey "Lights Out" LeBlanc permalink

    Very well put and inspiring

  2. rightwingconservativenewsblog permalink

    WAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy too long, but if I read the first few paragraphs correctly, and if you are a rock-ribbed conservative, then I am with you. Also, I pull no punches and didn’t do that even when it was more dangerous, as in the BITCH looked like IT would win. You might go for shorter pieces. That would also allow you to flood the Net with your views in separate, shorter stories, rather than one YUGE piece some might not read.

    Jes’ sayin’….

    • 1) The problem with the Internet, is that it contributes to the dumbing down of the world, by contributing to the “sound-bitization” of subjects that should be discussed in depth.

      2) I am hardly a “rock-ribbed conservative.” I would just as soon throw most “conservatives” out the same helicopters as the Marxists, which was mentioned in the article that was too long for you to read.

      • rightwingconservativenewsblog permalink

        “most?”

      • rightwingconservativenewsblog permalink

        ps: yes too long.

    • Bullshit — John’s articles are never too long for those of us that have similar values to John. If you can’t sit still long enough to read or don’t have time, use a text-to-speech program so you can listen while you are doing something else.

    • Anonymous permalink

      Fuckin’ really dude?

      Go back to Twitter.

      • rightwingconservativenewsblog permalink

        “Fuckin’ really dude?” As you say, yes. Me, go back to Twitter? Using you established vocabulary: Hows about you go fuck yersef? 🤠

  3. Brian Black permalink

    Thank you.

  4. Matt permalink

    Outstanding read. No problem with the length of the article, even with my limited attention span.

  5. Point of order: The Greek astronomer Eratosthenes knew the earth was round and calculated its radius and circumference by 460 B.C., Plato taught the earth as a sphere as early as 350 B.C., and the Essenes in Judea had made bathing a religious ritual by 200 B.C., all 7 centuries and more before the rise of Mohammed, let alone any caliphate based on his backwards philosophy.

    As in most things, the goat-humpers were at best cultural syncretists, and at worst barbarian visigoths, and any happenstantial benefits of their rule anywhere owe as much to luck as to any planning or thoughtfulness, then or now.

    • Every imperial culture has borrowed from those that went before. That doesn’t change the fact that, both within the Church as a whole, and certainly OUTSIDE of the Church, with very limited exceptions, those views held the normative position within European society long after the Caliphate collapsed. Nor does it change the FACT that those things were understood from India to Spain, under the Caliphate.

      Mohammedanism IS backwards religiously (and culturally these days), but it wasn’t always culturally backwards, and arguing that it is nothing more than a serious case of “underestimating the opponent.” Western culture was “backwards” by modern standards for most of our history as well. That doesn’t make it bad. We have to judge history through the lens of our own experiences and beliefs, but we should also be able to recognize that what is good wasn’t always, and what is bad wasn’t always.

      • we should also be able to recognize that what is good wasn’t always, and what is bad wasn’t always

        I get your point, but it only garners half credit.
        When Islam has a Reformation and Enlightenment, or they stop killing apostates, we can revisit the subject.
        While Christianity has certainly had bad eras, Islam has always been bad; there are merely times when it was less xenophobic.
        That’s not within a country mile of “good”, however.

        But that’s my only quibble with the greater essay.

    • Sid Vail permalink

      I would simply add that: “…any happenstantial benefits…” were LIKELY the singular effort of PLAGIARISM, and “copying”…From reading & ATTEMPTING to, (at LEAST), appreciate the dogma therein, I see VERY LITTLE reason to expect a great deal of individualistic and critical thinking or intellectual achievement …Tho I DO understand that the Mohammedan History does include gorgeous architecture, the unsupported arch, Mathematics, and a phenomenally rapid rise to predominance in Military & Political spheres; and a BIT of, (tho again MUCH PLAGIARIZED), Religious impact. Overall, it is DEADLY FALSE, and so TOTALITARIAN, as to reveal what a whimsical idiot Hitler ACTUALLY might have been, (if not for good Military genius around him, & SPIRITUAL possession within him)! Maybe the same spiritual influence as Mohammad admitted to having accepted in a cave EARLY ON?

      • Sid Vail permalink

        BTW John, AS USUAL, an EXTREMELY thought provoking and practical application of INTELLIGENCE, (for such an UNWASHED HEATHEN as yourself! Thanks for another stimulating discourse…now I can get to WORK & DO something that NEEDS doing!

  6. rightwingconservativenewsblog permalink

    Reblogged this on Conservative News Blog.

  7. Dave A Miles permalink

    Good to see you back. Your writing always seems to level my thoughts. I don’t get enough chalanging ideas from most of my day to day reads. You really do make me want to do more ( and i am) thank you. [ end of dick sucking]

  8. Well developed essay, not to long. The LDS and SSPX both have as their Call to Arms the close knit
    model you have described. The Elders promote member owned business and patronage, and fellowship.

  9. John permalink

    Ignoring the fact that the “primitive” culture in question may have survived, largely unchanged, for 2000 years. The Right looks at the material products of a culture, and sees anything else as irrelevant, even as they struggle to discover a way to “maintain cultural identity!”

    Well if wiping your ass with one hand is a way for maintaining cultural identity, I guess I will stay a redneck peckerwood with too many guns. Gee, if I try hard to accept a different way tho……………………

    • “Redneck peckerwood with too many guns…” IS a cultural identity. And, I can assure you, those people in the Beltway, on Manhattan Island, and etc…they consider YOU part of one of those “primitive” cultures.

      And yes, that includes all those with an R appended to their name. If you think otherwise, you’re sorely mistaken.

  10. Smitty permalink

    Intellectualism is not Intelligence

    Intellectualism in our current world is being used to denigrate entire belief systems to clear the way for a Marxist utopia. Intellectualism is a construct plain and simple used as a weapon to destroy the fabric of a society. Our higher education system is a cesspool of Marxism striving to turn us into a global cesspool. In the end it means a form of enslavement like that highly intellectual thief that monetized face book and calls for universal income (Marxism).

  11. Capitalism and Community – One of the biggest hindrances to forming community is the absence of frith. In response to your second-last paragraph, one thing that is often abused in “community” is when someone is selling goods or services, vendors try to take advantage of others in the community to maximize profit because of the commitment to the community by “purchasers”. If, as a businessman, you are committed to community, your moral obligation to establish frith by providing a “fair” price. As this type of businessman, frith must be considered as part of the compensation you receive for goods and services (As John stated/eluded in his article).

    • lineman permalink

      Wholeheartedly agree with that statement where if your from that community then you get a discount down to a “fair price” and if your just passing through then you have to pay full price…

  12. Tom permalink

    Thank you for your post. Local, local and local.

  13. lineman permalink

    Community/Tribe is where it’s at and if you don’t have it and can’t attain it where your at move to somewhere that is conducive to that environment…

  14. Roseman permalink

    Spot on as usual
    Your excerpt from ‘Forging the Hero’ reminds me of the quote from Thucydides;
    “The society that separates it’s scholars from it’s warriors will have it’s thinking done by cowards and it’s fighting done by fools”

    And there is little difference between a liberal/progressives and a blue blood country club republicans.

    • Walrus permalink

      Obvious point taken, but please! It’s its its its and its.

      • Walrus permalink

        And a mild apology attached for picking nits.

  15. oldshooter permalink

    The Ellis-Davidson quote clarified something that has been bothering me for some time now (especially when I get into heated discussions with my Philosophy Professor buddy). It most recently involved the Poem, “The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere.” We are both well aware that the poem is factually inaccurate, but I contended that it should still be taught as history because it is fundamentally true, even if not technically/factually so. He challenged me to defend that POV and I had trouble doing so. The Ellis-Davidson quote clarifies this for me. I think she would contend that our personal world view is probably even more dependent upon our Mythology, than upon our actual experiences, per se, because we EXPERIENCE the world through the lens of our existing belief systems (which, in turn, are epitomized by our cultural mythology). For example, If the Obamas (whom I consider racists) and I, ate in the same restaurant and were both served by a slow and surly waiter, I would think I’d had an incompetent or lazy waiter, while they would think they’d had a racist waiter – yet we would both have had the exact same actual, objective “experience.” Neither of us would likely question what we had “experienced,” yet our mythologies would really determine what we believed we had experienced.
    Some things that I think I “know” without questioning them, turn out to be quite different from the way others “know” them. My wife and I think very much alike on most topics, but I remember a night years ago (when I was recently back from Viet Nam) when she woke me up to ask if I had heard a woman screaming for help outside. We were living in what the police euphemistically refer to as a “high activity area” in San Diego at the time, so it was quite possible. I immediately put on my pants and boots, stuck a pistol in my waistband, put my flight jacket over it, and went out to see if someone was in trouble. As I turned a corner onto the main drag, I came face-to-face with a cop who had a woman in his car and a guy up against a wall frisking him. I instantly became aware that I was illegally armed, the .357 in my waistband began to weigh about 800 pounds, and I started mentally kicking myself for having gotten into this predicament. It turned out OK, but when I got back, I expressed my annoyance with the whole event to my wife. She said, “Well, I didn’t think you’d go OUT there!” I was shocked and asked what the Hell did she THINK I would do. She said, “I assumed you’d call the cops.” Frankly it never occurred to me until that moment. I assure you, I had no “hero/rescue fantasies” left by that time in my life. I suppose I just assumed that if someone was yelling for help, they’d need it PDQ, and if I heard the call, I was “expected” (by my cultural belief system – my mythology) to respond to it. Doing otherwise would be, in my world, dishonorable, perhaps even cowardly. Obviously, not everyone sees the world in that way. And the main difference is probably the different mythologies we believe in, regardless of how “factually accurate” they are. Thus, our national culture is highly dependent upon the continued teaching of our traditional, national mythology, regardless of how technically “factual” those myths may be.

    • EXACTLY! Spot on, accurate, and your argument, based on the Ellis-Davidson quote, would also be spot on. Culture is formed from the raw material of our mythologies.

      There is a significant portion of Forging the Hero that discusses that exact issue, in fact.

  16. Sid Vail permalink

    Well, now….I have recently been (RUDELY AWAKENED TO), the REALITY of “MYTHS”, and it’s REALLY GOTTEN ME TO COGITATIN! (can’t spell worth a DAMN!)….SERIOUSLY! (I mean SERIOUSLY THINKING)….

    What myth’s ARE, generally speaking, accepted as, (and what madam Ells-Davidson also elaborates on), is the “memories” or “believed to be memories”, [remember, no two “witnesses” ever see the SAME CRIME, EVENT SEQUENCE, or hear the same sounds as other witnesses to the VERY SAME EVENT SEQUENCE!]…of folks who SAW or HEARD something….BUT!

    “WHAT IF”…ah yes! I KNOW you’re cringing now!

    But, give me a moment…”WHAT IF” many of “our myths” aren’t as “Mythical” or “patched together, blurred remembrances”, as we’ve been taught to believe they SHOULD BE?

    Along the lines of John’s “bedtime stories that he had to “recite bedtime stories “off the cuff”

    Such as “Paul Bunyon”? “Jack’n the Bean stalk & that “giant”? OR….Genesis 6: 1 – 4; {“mighty men, men of renown — Nephillim}… AND Numbers 13:33? {grasshoppers?};

    OR…”WHAT IF” “Goliath”, and “OG”, weren’t “myths”, but ACTUAL FACTUAL living beings that WERE exceptionally tall & large? AND! “What IF” much of the “myths” of Judaeo / Christian Torah / Bible WEREN’T myths at all, but WERE ACTUAL HISTORICALLY ACCURATE descriptions of beings that ACTUALLY existed as described?

    Another way of saying / or / asking this is: “WHAT IF THE “TANAK” AND the “New Covenant” aren’t generally based on “myths”, but ARE, in FACT, HISTORICALLY ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS of events? Even to “burning bushes” that don’t dissolve? And “water gulfs” that opened up & revealed dry land, that millions of Ysra’elites crossed on…BUT Egyptian armed forces didn’t make it through?

    Now, (before ANYONE goes “off the rails”, or accuses me of the same), let me point out that John’s entire post is based upon the value of the impact that “cultural myths” have on societies & clans…Communities.

    BUT! I postulate that we “modern humans”, HAVE BEEN HORRENDOUSLY “dumbed down”, to REALITIES that we WILL NEED to know ARE REALITIES in the near future….Rev. 9; [esply. verses 13 – 18].

    Just give this “WHAT IF” a bit of SERIOUS THOUGHT…”WHAT IF” Ephesians 6:12 & II Cor. 10: 3 – 6, are NOT “myths”?

    .”WHAT IF” GILGAMESH isn’t a “mythical character” but ACTUALLY, was “Nimrod”, of Genesis 10: 8 & 11: 1 – 9…

    What IF the Hebrew word “Nephillm” describes ACTUAL LIVING BEINGS…as well as those “sons of Yahwey” in BOTH Genesis 6 AND Job 1:6 – 12 and 2:1 – 6??? AND!

    “WHAT IF” those 12 ‘princes’ /”spies” DID ACTUALLY SEE, (as described in Numbers 13;33), beings that made them look as grasshoppers, AND! Made them FEEL that they WERE as “grasshoppers” in comparison to the beings they encountered?

    NOW! My question, (after this RUDE AWAKENING), is: “IF” these “myths” ARE HISTORICALLY REAL, then WHAT impact SHOULD / WILL this REALITY ACTUALLY have on our future?

    How about Matthew 16: 18 – 19 being a STRONG hint…AND! The “transfiguration” being another; [Luke 9: 28 – 36]?

    NO WONDER that they “…kept it close, and told no man…”!? I mean…look at what you’re thinking about MY mental condition right now!

    And, in REALITY, I’m simply adding another dimension to John’s hypothesis….that MANY “myths” MIGHT NOT BE SO “Mythological”, after all, but ACTUALLY are HISTORICALLY valid events. THAT changes our “communities'” “frith” AND “myth” foundations to a REAL extent! [no pun intended]!

    btw, I, IN NO MEANS, intend to belittle John’s post! I DO intend to add a NEW potential REALITY to his view. His post is NEITHER too long, NOR too verbose…but rather, it is essential thinking for these times! Sooooo FEW actually do this! And, I believe that “community / clan” is 110% MORE ESSENTIALLY significant than we even grasp at this time.

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